Every time you torrent...

1213  2018-03-24 by Lamecat443

156 comments

Lol.

but what if i never had the money to go to a cinema in the first place?

They don’t care.

Or I don't like feeling ripped off when they show their ads even I have paid the full ticket.

Gotta buy the season pass at your local cinema if you don't want ads.

Nothing like that exist where I live.

Its a video game joke

This argument makes sense generally, but not for this cinema I'd say. They're an independent London based cinema that screens a bunch of niche films, especially known for screenings of The Room and Tommy Wiseau showing up. Their yearly membership is £10 and have weekly £1 screenings for members if their membership ticket prices aren't already cheap enough, so if you can somehow afford to live in London and not afford that cinema then I'd be very surprised.

Doesn't that cinema in particular also have staff in black bodysuits monitoring screenings and telling people to be quiet if theyre making too much noise?

I think that's another cinema, I've never seen any black bodysuit guys there personally.

Then again, that's the point of black bodysuits, I suppose.

Does your town not have a dollar theater? There’s one kind of near me, and it shows movies that came out like three or four months ago for only a buck.

nope just corporate chains charging 15 per ticket.

Probably you can't afford a decent computer to watch the film neither. Before I get a few thousand downvotes let me say that those who think they have the right to pirate things are the worst

Right? A pirate doesn't have to justify himself.

A computer is a multi-purpose reusable product which is certainly not the case for a movie ticket. You may in fact have an ancient system you use to write and distribute your resumes on, because unfortunately you're out of a job, and not be able to afford going out.

You can buy a pc good enough to game on for the same price as two movie tickets.

lmfao

I'm not kidding, you can build a wuad core 3 ghz with 4-8 gb ram and have a graphics card for $30 be the average movie ticket price is $15 these days.

Well here in Italy a movie ticket costs 7 or 9 Euros (8,65 or 11,12 dollars) depending on the cinema. For the config you have listed you need also quite a good quantity of luck to find these components, and for such a good price

X5450 is <$10 shipped, mod sticker for $1, find an old core 2 duo dell that literally nobody wants and were ubiquitous at every company and government office until a few years ago. Then put in an r5 240 for $15.

Fair enough, even if an r5 240 isn't really gaming capable if you're not a retro gamer

You can play games like rocket league and cs:go on it. Obviously you're not going to be playing anything on high settings for that much. You could get a gt1030 or gtx1050 with this settup though without needing a better power supply.

Stupid logic.

Great oxymoron.

Is that a new movie? because I wanna torrent it!

I wanna steal

*gasp*

FBI open up boom!

Don't come near me I have a mirror.

DIE FASTER THEN

Fuck you

no fuck you, leather man

No fuck me, leather man!

(Am I doing this right?)

I'm sure many people commenting here don't know, but the Prince Charles Cinema is the best art-house cinema in London. This is the classic cinema experience everyone is saying doesn't exist anymore.

I like indie cinemas. There's one in Prague called Světozor, and it's lovely there. No popcorn, drinks or whatever, just you, someone you came with, and the movie. The halls are quite small too, making it quite cozy. And they frequently show movies I wouldn't otherwise know of, which is nice, along with doing screenings of old movies from time to time.

I'm not going to give money to a corporate giant to see Black Panther and have some guy munch popcorn right next to me, but I'll gladly support cinemas like this.

TIL.

"well, it's your god, you sort it out with him, plonkers"

Another one bites the dust...

What a cheap scare tactic I am sure most people don't go to these cinemas anyway and they are not that clean or convenient. You never see an IMAX theater shutting down because of this, it is just hogwash. Besides I am sure most folk rather see the movie the legit way anyway to entertain their lovers/friends/family.

to be fair this cinema is an independant cinema with really good films. alot of classics which you wouldnt get to se at a imax etc....along with back to back films /movie marathons.

While I'm sure that's true, I just have a problem with them pushing negative anti-piracy messages instead of more positive ones that celebrate their unique role they've chosen to play as a cinema. Just as a passerby, I'd be much more inclined to go to one that promoted the latter. Even if I already owned the movie.

pushing negative anti-piracy messages

Damn man, chill. It seems quite tongue in cheek and rather clever to me. Great attention grabber that might get some non-moviegoing types to check out their rather unique offerings.

Damn man, chill.

Uhm. I wasn't really "freaking out" about anything? I don't know why you read it that way? And yeah, it might, but you know this is sort of, well, a piracy sub? I don't think many people on this sub are a part of the audience that would find this very attention grabbing or appealing.

Its an art cinema. Its making a statement. Fuck you too!

It's kinda hard to find a still-in-theatres torrent that isn't cam garbage

You do realise that cinemas don't only play new movies, right?

Ah, forgive me. I do know that. I guess I really don't go to enough cinemas xD

Not where l live...

I wish that was the case around me. The only old movies they show are at the city-council run essay cinema, and they're free, commercial cinemas only show dubbed blockbusters.

I think I'll live.

Every time I pay for the cinema, they sell coke and popcorn more expensive than the movie !

Not to mention that ticket prices (at least where I live) are trending upward. I think now a ticket to a new popular movie, let’s say Black Panther, is about $14. It’s getting pricey, especially if I’m bringing my girlfriend...

Don't say its not worth it to bring her you dog you 😉

And won't allow you to bring your own. You either pay three times the cost of your tickets in soda and snacks or you don't get to fully enjoy the movie you already paid for.

That's why you bring a tote bag purse

You're allowed to bring your own in most civilised countries with consumer protection acts.

I guess the Netherlands sucks then! haboo!

LPT - the minimum wage staff don't give a fuck if you bring in your own popcorn and cans of juice, whatever the signs in the lobby say.

Depends on the theater and the staff. One of my local theaters will ask you to leave if they see you.

I mean, you can't be too obvious about it, but they're not gonna strip search you.

That's why you enter a cinema fatter than you exit.

Everytime you pirate popcorn, god kills a popcorn machine!

Yeah it's a bit suspicious to wear a big winter jacket (easy to sneak stuff in) when it's >20C / 70F outside xD

You saying I don't have to hide my Reese's Pieces up my ass?

You can... But only after you ate it!

Just sneak it in like normal people.

To be fair they don't make money off ticket sales, concessions is the only money maker.

To be fair they don't make money off ticket sales, concessions is the only money maker.

Well, they make money on all of it, to be honest. All the income helps the profit. Tickets only may not be enough to get a profit but that is not the same thing.

Well, they make money on all of it, to be honest.

No. You should see some of the latest deals that theaters have been getting for movies... it's possible for them to be in the negative on ticket sales alone. If you want Star Wars or any other latest Disney movie, you have to promise to show it on the largest screen far longer than it will draw sales. You have to pay a fee per screening, plus the majority of the ticket price. Have to promise to not stop showing it for n weeks, etc.

For anything other than the largest chain theaters, it's completely fucked.

This is what I said:

Well, they make money on all of it, to be honest. All the income helps the profit. Tickets only may not be enough to get a profit but that is not the same thing.

And you responded this:

it's possible for them to be in the negative on ticket sales alone.

So you started with "No", but you agree with my point.

You're right

Yah! They don't accept food card only credit cards..WTF

This is why even in July, I bring in a rucksack with a bag of popcorn and a bottle of coke I brought at the supermarket

One of the reasons I torrent is that I would never bother to go outside to watch something. As far as I'm concerned, cinemas may as well stop existing.

Research into people who pirate content showed that there is actually a high correlation between media pirates and media consumption, and that people who pirate the most consume the most paid content as well.

All of this to say: if you pirate a lot, you generally are exactly the kind of person to regularly go to the cinema.

That's my logic to piracy. I usually give a peice of media a chance, say a movie or a song, and then if I like it, I'll buy it. Lots of metal album purchases owe a great debt of gratitude from my piracy haha. Well back before Spotify. Now you can pretty much legally listen to any music you want.

Or sometimes I'll pirate a show before it's out on bluray, and then I'll buy it when it releases. I did that for Ash Vs Evil Dead season 2. I don't want Starz, so I just wait for the physical release, but I was too excited to wait.

Yes, no doubt - when you consume media unfettered by economic restraints, you develop a better relationship with that media such that you are more likely to purchase it.

Even with media in the public domain - I often end up buying physical copies of books because I really enjoyed reading or listening to that book.

I think corporations could even monetize peer-to-peer networks by putting up advertisements to get magnet links or torrent files, and this would allow them to distribute their work to otherwise non-monetized markets that don't have other ways to consume their content. Restricting how you use and consume your content seems against the larger goals of artists and media companies - if they want people to love their brands and media, the best way to do this is to make it available in formats that they want (or available at all).

I always go to the movies, doesn't mean I won't pirate the same movie when it comes out on DVD. The movies are an experience!

Yep. Turns out, people who like media tend to consume it in multiple ways. Theaters should be catering to pirates, not feeling threatened by them.

All of this to say: if you pirate a lot, you generally are exactly the kind of person to regularly go to the cinema.

I haven't been in two years.

It's not for everyone. I wish distributors realized that people want more formats than just the prescribed ones they already offer. Streaming is helping with this a little, but the quality is such shit.

One of the reasons I torrent is that I would never bother to go outside to watch something.

Doesn't make any sense because usually the film is only available in acceptable quality when the bluray gets released which means you can buy it and watch at home.

Well, I also don't have a single device that can read optical media.

Sure, but if you weren't pirating you would likely get one. Blu-ray players are pretty cheap now, $40 everyday on amazon.

It's more like €70 where I live, but that's not the point. I can easily afford that, it's just that the idea of going to physical store to get a thing that you manually put in an optical drive sounds like something that should have died completely by the time internet became ubiquitous.

At this point it's literally faster to download 50 GB than to go to any store outside, and downloading doesn't interrupt what you are doing.

I'm pretty sure this was intended as a joke

I'm pretty sure this post is flaired as humor

Yeah I see that but some others clearly dont

Stewing and BitTorrent have made movie theaters obsolete!

And when you actually pay for the dam movie, you have to sit through the god dam 30 minutes ads. Before the movie even starts.

We need Cinema AdGuard.

That’s an old wives tale. No ads on iTunes, Amazon Vudu, etc.

Well you can always go later so you skip the ads and just see the movie..

I remember from my film class, during the early days of cinemas, people would walk in casually late and miss the first bit of the movie. As a result, directors would make the first parts of movies slow and didn't have much plot development so people wouldnt miss much.

But then you don't get any of the good seats.

You what? I meant enter the cinema a bit later, not by tickets late.. You can still enter even after the movie has started... Buy tickets a few days before like you always do just go in later than usual, lol.

A lot of theaters don't have assigned seating. You just buy the ticket and sit wherever you want.

That's just stupid... We're not fucking savages.. Not anymore atleast... There's not even a single cinema like that in my country... You just buy a ticket 2 days or whatever in advance and that's it, wtf!

Yeah it surprises me too. Here in Portugal that's been the standard for ages in most theater chains

I've never even heard of assigned seating at a theater before. Now im wishing they ALL were.

You savages

Ours has electronic reclining seats and trays that swing round for your sweets etc lol

It's amazing how many useless things I learn about on reddit. My country has assigned seating too and its not even a "developed country" by any means and I just assumed they do all over the world.

Funny how little we know..

Yeah Wtf

But then you would have to pay a chiropractor $100 for fix your neck after your neck from sitting in the front row.

Another guy... Where the fuck are you people going to cinemas where you can't buy tickets in advance... Do you buy tickets right before the movie everytime?

Not every place is assigned seating.

Where is that, Pakistan?

*uBlock Origin, though AdGuard is pretty good

What they don't know is if i go to the movies im going at 5pm and when the first movies done i just go watch a different movie and maybe a third after that

I am responsible for a lot of dead cinemas.

Let me tell you what happens when you torrent. The invisible hand of the market kills a cinema. But then you save a little bit of money. Money that you can spend on the necessities of life, and luxuries in other industries. Luxuries with tangible value.

The cinema closes down and the land is sold to a developer who builds something new. This increases the supply for real estate leases, lowering aggregate prices for businesses. Those savings can be passed onto consumers. Savings that you can again spend on yourself. An increase in demand in other areas in the economy means more job creation elsewhere, or more savings which can be used for investment.

The teenagers who worked there will have to find jobs elsewhere. Ideally somewhere where they can create new economic value instead of just copying it. You already benefited from the entertainment/social value that the movie provided and it didn't cos t anything to anyone (outside of hypothetical lost profits, which they should not be entitled to in the first place).

So carry on, people.

The teenager, had he/she worked there, would torrent to save for an iPhone X than to pay to go to the cinema

You forgot, the developers will build a multiplex cinema with your mediocre chain restaurants on those sites

I hope that you are aware that neoclassic economics is not science, not even close.

more job creation

Nope, you are not aware.

Solid rebuttal for pretty much anything. I say the sky is blue, you say that's not science.

Do you want me to show you 130 years of economic thought, so you can reach the same conclusion as thousands of economists have reached before?

Neoclassical economics is science in the sense that astrology is. Sadly for you, the world is a lot more complex, markets are created and regulated, and there is never an invisible hand. There is competition and there is innovation, but never ever think for one second that the system is "fair" or something like that.

This is an appeal to authority fallacy. Instead of explaining why what I said is incorrect in plain English, you're dropping the science bomb by just saying that some anonymous experts disagree.

Tell me, what part specifically do they disagree with? And what branch of science has proven that locking people up for copyright infringement benefits the economy?

And you read a short excerpt of fallacies somewhere and now throw those at me.

And what branch of science has proven that locking people up for copyright infringement benefits the economy?

Like this one, the classic strawman.

in plain English

Not a child. OK, plain Enlgish: you posted from the heavens throwing "science" at a comment. I come here and tell you: no, markets do not work that way; and political economy (not such thing as "economics") work very differently. And no, I will not explain it to you, since it is like explaining evolution to a religious zealot. There is Wikipedia to get you started.

Pointing out a fallacy in an argument is not a fallacy. Regarding the economics, it sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Do you do this often?

Every time I find somebody that believes that Mankiw or Ayn Rand should be taken seriously. Yes, I know more than you.

I know more than you.

You've made some solid arguments here and you'll get no more debate from me. Clearly you're a genius on par with Milton Friedman himself. No, you've convinced me he was an idiot. Karl Marx - now there was a real economist. I don't even know what point you were trying to make since you didn't get beyond just pointing out that I'm wrong without any further context, but that last sentence really summed up your qualifications in this matter, so I'm inclined to just take your word on it. Clearly this has been an extremely productive, informative conversation. Thanks.

Milton Friedman

Not a genius. Monetarism has killed a lot of people. I met Kenneth Arrow once, though.

Karl Marx - now there was a real economist

Yes. Him and Darwin, the most important men of the 19th century.

Clearly this has been an extremely productive, informative conversation. Thanks.

If only you would at least read a book on the epistemology of Economics (McCloskey?). Or start with Heilbroner, he has a nice famous book about economists.

I went to cinema and watch movies Some movies worth watching again So... pirate em

You put the cinema prices up BEFORE downloading started. I know, I am old.

I'll miss cinemas as much as I miss video stores. Which is Not at all

How about change the “torrent” to “Netflix”, “Amazon Prime”, “video”, “DVD” and”TV” and they’ll get the real reason why cinema attendance is declining

How about replace “torrent” to “Netflix”, “Amazon Prime”, “video”, “DVD” and”TV” and they’ll get the real reason why cinema attendance is declining - plus with mugging, assaults and street harassments out there, nobody wants to go out anymore

Fuck you all! fuck every circlejerk. Fuck reddit. Fuck me!

Give us free DVDs and we might stop doing torrent

Dear PCC

I torrent because I live in a shithole that wished it had a cinema like your’s - all it has now is some multiplexes that show nothing but garbage - now, it doesn’t matter anymore as I lost interest in films and if it wasn’t for BitTorrent, my interest would’ve died a decade ago

Signed

metorrenttoo

Muliplexes, as in more than one? Boy have you got it made. Try one tiny cinema that hardy shows films I want to watch. It would take about 5-6 hours* and about £25 to see a film in a small cinema with multiple(3) screens.

Add another hour or two to that to get to a decent one.

* including the time taken to watch the film.

Torrenting does not kill independent cinemas. Big cinema chain monopolies kill independent cinemas.

If the cinemas really cared they'd do something about the studios robbing them.

So?

Phew! I've been streaming instead.

Damn man I must have killed around 3k theaters or more.

The sooner the better

Good, Anakin!!!

Record box office breaking movie numbers. Maybe the ticket prices are the problem. Half price ticket days would sell out, maybe their product is too expensive?

What if I direct download / Download from a stream?

Do they survive?

I must be some kind of mass murderer than...

The Cinemas still fun at least for now, School life and Cinema mix well. But assuming there won't be anymore buddy trips to cinemas when I grow up, I am stocking up on those Torrenting tricks & tips.

The Prince owns a Cinema cool

But I hate people and I like my movies.

Also, I can't wait for the day that all new movies are VOD.

Torrenting God kills a cinema?

More like every time you buy a Netflix subscription...

Actually as in chain cinemas as it is in the UK; one can be called a multiplex that has seen better days because of competitions from other cinemas, there’s another two which one is was a mini mart in a town centre and another used to be some derelict store with a vast parking space

Is there a Yify rls up yet? Because I'm on an old device.

hmmm, sooooo....

Every time you spent a fornute on popcorn and soda at a cinema, God kills some hungry person!?!?!?

As an atheist, it doesn't matter to me.

I mean, I just added a bunch of older movies to qbt, the newest being from 2004 and the oldest being from 1984 because my girlfriend is on a movie binge right now.

Am I killing the cinema?!

No, your girlfriend is! /s

Torrenting has no downsides.

I just try to avoid going to the cinema, due to the way the movie industry acts when they are trying to stop people from sharing movies.

If only!

Cinemas deserve to die tbh. Those snacks and soda prices are disguisting. At least here in germany 5€ for 1L of coke which you can get for 1€ in the supermarket

Good. Overpriced shit at concession, very few good movies come out worthy of the ticket prices anymore. I'll go to a dollar movie if I'm bored but that's it. The only time I pay is if I torrent a movie and its actually warranted.

Ans that's completely leaving out how preachy and political those assholes have gotten lately.

If you put the future of your business in the hands of (a) god, you don't know how to run a business properly.

I've gotten to the point where I only go to theaters when I really wanna see the movie the day it comes out. I can justify paying $20 for the ticket, popcorn & pop because I feel I'm paying for the experience of watching it with a crowd of other fans, the big screen, and the surround sound.

Sadly, the number of movies I feel I absolutely must see in theaters seems to be dwindling every year. When I was younger, I would go to the movies almost every weekend, but now it's down to a few times a year at most.

Must be the truth. Just look at what happened to Detroit once people started downloading cars

I would watch that movie.

Starring John Cusack.

oh man so nostalgic for movie theaters.

the talking of the audience, that couple that brought in their crying baby, the kids with the laser pointers, the glow of the screens when cellphone are unlocked during climactic scenes. it was paradise

1000th upvote!

Meh, I only watch BD releases.

A reminder that movie theatres have a monopoly on new movies which is fundamentally anti consumer

God doesnt exist also fuck the monarchy and its princes

Good, I never likes cinemas. I love the concept but it never worked in practice.

Almost none of the movies they tend to play there seem to have been made in the last 20 years or so... which is great, and I love theaters like that... but... kinda puts piracy pretty low on the list of things costing them money I'd wager.

Even if I pay to see a movie twice in a cinema (black panther, for example) ill still torrent it. Because once its out of cinemas ill probably still want to see it again.

If you're already spending at least $20 to see it in the theatre why not spend the $30 to buy the bluray?

Uhh- because if I’m seeing it in the theatre it’s not out on Blu-ray

I meant why not spend the money on the bluray when it comes out.

Because at that point I could just pirate it- plus I like Getting to spend time with my friends-going to the movies this one way I can do that.

The industry has had 20 years to adapt to movie sharing and has gotten it wrong when torrenting provides a better quality, faster access and doesn't come with any ads or unskippable cut scenes, piracy warnings and to top it all off it's free.

Stuff the Bible Bashers

But how will i get my linux ISOs?

I would download a car.

And everytime I do, a koala dies, apparently...

to be fair this cinema is an independant cinema with really good films. alot of classics which you wouldnt get to se at a imax etc....along with back to back films /movie marathons.

Its an art cinema. Its making a statement. Fuck you too!

This is an appeal to authority fallacy. Instead of explaining why what I said is incorrect in plain English, you're dropping the science bomb by just saying that some anonymous experts disagree.

Tell me, what part specifically do they disagree with? And what branch of science has proven that locking people up for copyright infringement benefits the economy?

X5450 is <$10 shipped, mod sticker for $1, find an old core 2 duo dell that literally nobody wants and were ubiquitous at every company and government office until a few years ago. Then put in an r5 240 for $15.

nope just corporate chains charging 15 per ticket.

This is what I said:

Well, they make money on all of it, to be honest. All the income helps the profit. Tickets only may not be enough to get a profit but that is not the same thing.

And you responded this:

it's possible for them to be in the negative on ticket sales alone.

So you started with "No", but you agree with my point.

Sure, but if you weren't pirating you would likely get one. Blu-ray players are pretty cheap now, $40 everyday on amazon.

Yes, no doubt - when you consume media unfettered by economic restraints, you develop a better relationship with that media such that you are more likely to purchase it.

Even with media in the public domain - I often end up buying physical copies of books because I really enjoyed reading or listening to that book.

I think corporations could even monetize peer-to-peer networks by putting up advertisements to get magnet links or torrent files, and this would allow them to distribute their work to otherwise non-monetized markets that don't have other ways to consume their content. Restricting how you use and consume your content seems against the larger goals of artists and media companies - if they want people to love their brands and media, the best way to do this is to make it available in formats that they want (or available at all).